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God is not complex

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1 God is not complex on Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:29 am

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God is not complex

http://reasonandscience.heavenforum.org/t1332-god-is-not-complex

http://www.reasonablefaith.org/richard-dawkins-argument-for-atheism-in-the-god-delusion

God is a remarkably simple entity. As a non-physical entity, a mind is not composed of parts, and its salient properties, like self-consciousness, rationality, and volition, are essential to it. In contrast to the contingent and variegated universe with all its inexplicable quantities and constants, a divine mind is startlingly simple. Certainly such a mind may have complex ideas—it may be thinking, for example, of the infinitesimal calculus—, but the mind itself is a remarkably simple entity
http://www.gavinjensen.com/blog/rebutting-an-atheist-argument-against-theism

   Suppose we land on an alien planet orbiting a distant star and discover some machine-like objects that look and work just like a 1941 Allis Chalmers tractor; our leader says “there must be intelligent beings on this planet—look at those tractors.” A sophomore philosophy student on the expedition objects: “Hey, hold on a minute! You have explained nothing at all! Any intelligent life that designed those tractors would have to be at least as complex as they are!” No doubt we’d tell him a little learning is a dangerous thing and advise him to take the next rocket ship home and enroll in another philosophy course or two.

The point is that the leader was not trying to give an ultimate explanation of organized complexity. He was only trying to explain one particular manifestation of it—the tractors. In this context it is perfectly reasonable to explain one manifestation of organized complexity with another. Similarly theists are not trying to give an ultimate explanation for all organized complexity (including God) when they invoke God as an explanation for organized complexity.

Michael Breck Not all systematic theologians subscribe to Divine Simplicity.. and those that do often have different positions in how it applies. Physical complexity does NOT apply to Divine Simplicity since spiritual "being" is not about physical complexity. God is infinite... physical complexity is finite. Mathematics, for instance, is infinitely complex (some believe it is part of the (ineffable) Mind of God because it is perfect and infinite) but within infinite mathematics there is finite complexity which can proceed out of it. Perhaps to God mathematics is "simple" in some sense. God's spiritual existence would clearly be infinitely above any physical complexity. I believe that this is where the confusion lies. The spiritual state of divine simplicity is still infinitely above and beyond mere physical complexity. God knows and sustains all physical complexity no matter how complex. Even those things which appear to be random but are known perfectly to God. Electron orbitals are just one of many examples. You said, "unless you have a different meaning for complexity and simple." You were correct on this point.

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